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About the Show

We Need to Calm Down is a show where two fans can finally let their dedication to America's sweetheart, Taylor Swift, shine.

On just a typical Tuesday night Devon & Joe get together to talk all things Taylor.

From in-depth song breakdowns to news about the Queen and even our insane fan theories (that might not be that insane).

If you're a fan of Taylor, you'll love the show, if not listen anyway?

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December 8th, 2020

Anatomy of a Song

#37: Breaking Down Taylor Swift’s Bridges (The Anatomy of a Song Series)

All these bridges and we still can't get over it.

This week Devon and Joe start a new series on the show: The Anatomy of a Song. In each episode in this series we'll be breaking down different aspects of a song, explaining how they fit in song composition, and most importantly, explaining how Taylor Swift does them so well.

Of course we had to kick the series off with bridges, the most iconic part of any Taylor Swift song. Join us this week as we discuss what makes Taylor's bridges stand out and discuss our favorite and top 5 bridges she's ever recorded.

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November 24th, 2020


#34: Taylor Swift's 2020 Rolling Stone Interviews

Taylor has been really busy in November of 2020. In just the span of two weeks, Rolling Stone released "Musicians on Musicians" in which Taylor sat down with Paul McCartney to discuss songwriting, and both of their new albums from 2020. Not long after, Rolling Stone released a Taylor Swift-centered episode in their '500 Greatest Albums Podcast' where they interviewed her about her album Red, which landed at 99 on the list. Join Devon and Joe as they discuss the interviews and the implications thereof.

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November 10th, 2020

Song Breakdown

#31: this is me trying (Song Breakdown)

After a week off, we're back with a song breakdown. This week we break down track 9: this is me trying. Devon defends the songs honor and tries to bring Joe around on the track he rated 3rd to last. Will she succeed?

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October 20th, 2020

Song Breakdown

#28: seven (Song Breakdown)

We're back on our Song Breakdowns. This week we do track 7: seven (she nailed it). We discuss the context around this song, our opinions on the song (controversial), the lyrics that stood out to us, and once again Devon breaks down the production of the song.

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December 3rd, 2020

Song Breakdown

#36: invisible string (Song Breakdown)

We're back for another Thursday breakdown! We're getting close to the end, this week we are breaking down track 11: invisible string. This track was the obvious standout and Joe and Devon's de facto best track on the record when it released, is it still held in such high regard? Or have our thoughts on the track fallen? Listen this week to find out.

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November 19th, 2020

Song Breakdown

#33: illicit affairs (Song Breakdown)

FINALLY screamed Joe. This week, Joe and Devon break down one of Joe’s favorite songs from folklore: illicit affairs. We dive into the context around the song, talk about our favorite lyrics (it’s a lot), and Devon breaks down the production behind the song.

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October 29th, 2020

Song Breakdown

#30: august (Song Breakdown)

We just can't stay off of folkore for long, this week we break down the 8th track off the record: august. We dive into the lyrics, context and production behind the track to really find out why it's considered one of the best tracks on the album.

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October 15th, 2020

Deep Dive

#27: A Deep Dive into the folklore Love Triangle (Part 2)

It's all connected? Always was.

In the second part of the Love Triangle breakdown, we dive deep into all of the theories surrounding the story of James, Betty, and the no name mistress. Including the largest theory... that the story spans the entire album.

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December 1st, 2020


#35: folklore: the long pond studio sessions reaction

Taylor will not stop dropping bombshells. Which is honestly great for this show. This week, we were given another giant announcement with less than 24 hours to process. We were all invited to the secret sessions, the long pond studio sessions to be more specific. Join Devon and Joe as they gush over the performances and the interviews between the songs.

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November 17th, 2020


#32: Taylor Can Re-Record Her First Five Albums

Did you feel something change after Halloween? A pulse blew through the world. Once the world hit November 1st, 2020, Taylor Alison Swift became able to re-record and re-release her first five albums. The implications are huge, the undertaking? Massive. What does this mean for her? Why is this even a thing? Why would she even need to do this? Devon and Joe breakdown the whole situation and give our thoughts and hopes now that the world has been unlocked for Ms. Swift.

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October 27th, 2020


#29: The Archer is NOT a Track 5 (Opinion)

Joe is here and he's ready to rant. With facts & figures. On this week's episode Joe sits Devon down for a presentation on why Lover's 'The Archer' is a Track 5 imposter. Joe breaks down what it means to be a Track 5, some interesting data involving the mystical track number and explains why The Archer just doesn't fit in.

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October 13th, 2020

Deep Dive

#26: A Deep Dive into the folklore Love Triangle (Part 1)

That's right! You read that right, we have our first two part episode! There was so much to unpack in the Betty/James/UnnamedMistress love triangle we couldn't fit it all into one episode. So in this part, we discuss the background on the story and songs, the lyrics that link them all, and our favorite lyrics that give us the story. Part 2 will be out on Thursday so stay tuned!

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